Comments for Joy Luck Club http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org Just another Edublogs.org weblog Mon, 07 May 2007 23:51:27 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 Comment on Eileen says..Pick your nose. Simon says…BLOG by The Loubricator http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/comment-page-1/#comment-11 The Loubricator Mon, 07 May 2007 23:51:27 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/#comment-11 I agree with what you said about the mother's wanting their daughters to live out the American dream, which I think is interesting considering the type culture the mothers were used to in China. My impression through this book is that in Chinese culture, women are subservient to men. This strikes me as interesting, because the mothers' pushing of their daughters to become successful and independant shows a desire for them to become "Americanized" in a way, therefore in way breaking stride with their attempts to get them to embrace their Chinese heritage. I agree with what you said about the mother’s wanting their daughters to live out the American dream, which I think is interesting considering the type culture the mothers were used to in China. My impression through this book is that in Chinese culture, women are subservient to men. This strikes me as interesting, because the mothers’ pushing of their daughters to become successful and independant shows a desire for them to become “Americanized” in a way, therefore in way breaking stride with their attempts to get them to embrace their Chinese heritage.

]]> Comment on depiction of women blogtizzle by Cody http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/25/18/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Cody Fri, 04 May 2007 03:26:59 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/25/18/#comment-10 Hey Lou, I wholeheartedly agree with you. It is really interesting to see how the issues facing the Chinese mothers differ so greatly from the issues facing their American daughters. While the mothers' issues tend to be of a greater nature (rape, death and war), I think this most likely resulted from the fact that they lived in China during a time of major political and social unrest. I feel that if their country had had fewer stability issues during their youth, the mothers would have suffered from the same issues as the daughters (love, happiness, acceptance). I do agree, though, that much of their personal differences came from the fact that the mothers were Chinese, while the daughters were a Chinese - American mix. I wonder what was harder for the characters: being one of the mothers, having a solid nationality but one who's ideals and beliefs differed greatly from where they live, or being one of the daughters, having a confusing mix of nationalities, never allowing them to feel at home no matter where they are? Hey Lou,
I wholeheartedly agree with you. It is really interesting to see how the issues facing the Chinese mothers differ so greatly from the issues facing their American daughters. While the mothers’ issues tend to be of a greater nature (rape, death and war), I think this most likely resulted from the fact that they lived in China during a time of major political and social unrest. I feel that if their country had had fewer stability issues during their youth, the mothers would have suffered from the same issues as the daughters (love, happiness, acceptance). I do agree, though, that much of their personal differences came from the fact that the mothers were Chinese, while the daughters were a Chinese – American mix. I wonder what was harder for the characters: being one of the mothers, having a solid nationality but one who’s ideals and beliefs differed greatly from where they live, or being one of the daughters, having a confusing mix of nationalities, never allowing them to feel at home no matter where they are?

]]> Comment on Eileen says..Pick your nose. Simon says…BLOG by yhsjoyluckclub http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/comment-page-1/#comment-9 yhsjoyluckclub Thu, 26 Apr 2007 03:00:28 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/#comment-9 I think that the impact China has on the mothers is quite apparent through out the story. Their pasts seem to carry them through life and how they act. America though, has a rather large impact on the characters. For the mothers, America conspicuously has played a large role in their lives. When their daughters were young, they wnated the best for them, which may tie in with the American dream, anything being possible. They take great pride in their daughters through chess or piano( sortof) etc.. Since they have had awful lives in China, they come to America with hopes and try to take pride in something, that being their daughters. The daughters have an apparent struggle in America mostly with themselves and dealing with their upset marriages. The mothers seem like they deal with the difference in culture by sticking to their chinese background, and trying to hold on to it as much as they can..ie: the language, the food, traditions. By holding on to the chinese ways, it may be like holding on to a part of themselves which was left behind. I think the daughters may get wrapped up in the mothers and their background, always wanting to please them and give them what they want..they don't always feel good enough for them.-eileen I think that the impact China has on the mothers is quite apparent through out the story. Their pasts seem to carry them through life and how they act. America though, has a rather large impact on the characters. For the mothers, America conspicuously has played a large role in their lives. When their daughters were young, they wnated the best for them, which may tie in with the American dream, anything being possible. They take great pride in their daughters through chess or piano( sortof) etc.. Since they have had awful lives in China, they come to America with hopes and try to take pride in something, that being their daughters. The daughters have an apparent struggle in America mostly with themselves and dealing with their upset marriages. The mothers seem like they deal with the difference in culture by sticking to their chinese background, and trying to hold on to it as much as they can..ie: the language, the food, traditions. By holding on to the chinese ways, it may be like holding on to a part of themselves which was left behind. I think the daughters may get wrapped up in the mothers and their background, always wanting to please them and give them what they want..they don’t always feel good enough for them.-eileen

]]> Comment on Joy and Luck in Club Form by yhssecretlifeofbees http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/04/joy-and-luck-in-club-form/comment-page-1/#comment-8 yhssecretlifeofbees Thu, 26 Apr 2007 02:00:03 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/04/joy-and-luck-in-club-form/#comment-8 It's interesting how big the role of mother/daughter relationships is in your book. In The Secret Life of Bees, the protagonist's mother dies leaving her young daughter and hostile father. Lily, the daughter, throughout the novel, seeks to fill the void that was left when her mother was killed. Other women begin to fill the role with love and acceptance, things that Lily did not recieve from her father. It's set in South Carolina, so the dynamics are obviously different than China, yet the theme and strong relationship are universal. -emily It’s interesting how big the role of mother/daughter relationships is in your book. In The Secret Life of Bees, the protagonist’s mother dies leaving her young daughter and hostile father. Lily, the daughter, throughout the novel, seeks to fill the void that was left when her mother was killed. Other women begin to fill the role with love and acceptance, things that Lily did not recieve from her father. It’s set in South Carolina, so the dynamics are obviously different than China, yet the theme and strong relationship are universal.
-emily

]]> Comment on Eileen says..Pick your nose. Simon says…BLOG by Mrs. P http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Mrs. P Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:02:37 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/#comment-7 Eileen, Have confidence in your ideas! What is the most signifiant impact America has on these characters? The differences between Chinese culture and American culture is significant. How do the characters deal with the differences? Mrs. P Eileen,
Have confidence in your ideas! What is the most signifiant impact America has on these characters? The differences between Chinese culture and American culture is significant. How do the characters deal with the differences?

Mrs. P

]]> Comment on Eileen says..Pick your nose. Simon says…BLOG by Lauren http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Lauren Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:27:49 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/22/eileen-sayspick-your-nose-simon-saysblog/#comment-6 To go along with what Eileen said, I think that the relationships definitely change from China to America due to the language barrier and the feeling that some of their past has somehow been erased because of the cultural change. The past that the mothers have left behind in China still lingers and impacts the relationships between the their daughters and themselves. To go along with what Eileen said, I think that the relationships definitely change from China to America due to the language barrier and the feeling that some of their past has somehow been erased because of the cultural change. The past that the mothers have left behind in China still lingers and impacts the relationships between the their daughters and themselves.

]]> Comment on Joy and Luck in Club Form by Zorro http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/04/joy-and-luck-in-club-form/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Zorro Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:56:37 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/04/joy-and-luck-in-club-form/#comment-4 Andrew I agree with Mrs. P that you have a good analysis. Very nice mother daughter relationships. Tight Andrew I agree with Mrs. P that you have a good analysis.
Very nice mother daughter relationships.
Tight

]]> Comment on Joy and Luck in Club Form by Mrs. P http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/04/joy-and-luck-in-club-form/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Mrs. P Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:12:57 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/04/joy-and-luck-in-club-form/#comment-3 Andrew, Your analysis of the mother/daughter relationship is particularly interesting because it is from a male point of view. In your opinion, since I know you have a sister, do you think mother/daughter relationships in today's society have anything in common with those portrayed in this book? Readers often find themselves connecting to situations, experiences, or traits of the characters in novels, and I am wondering how readers in our culture would connect to this relationship. I look forward to your next response. Mrs. P Andrew,
Your analysis of the mother/daughter relationship is particularly interesting because it is from a male point of view. In your opinion, since I know you have a sister, do you think mother/daughter relationships in today’s society have anything in common with those portrayed in this book? Readers often find themselves connecting to situations, experiences, or traits of the characters in novels, and I am wondering how readers in our culture would connect to this relationship. I look forward to your next response.

Mrs. P

]]> Comment on Post from Lauren by Mrs. P http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/03/5/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Mrs. P Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:09:48 +0000 http://yhsjoyluckclub.edublogs.org/2007/04/03/5/#comment-2 Lauren, You have made some interesting points. I am curious to know your reaction to the use of the past to show the future. Do you think characters are restricted by the past? How does the past happiness/unhappiness influence the future happiness/unhappiness? I look forward to your next post. Mrs. P Lauren,
You have made some interesting points. I am curious to know your reaction to the use of the past to show the future. Do you think characters are restricted by the past? How does the past happiness/unhappiness influence the future happiness/unhappiness? I look forward to your next post.

Mrs. P

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